IUF events
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Section 1A.1.2 describes how event interact with IUF to be recognised. IUF as issued new guidelines for that with different levels of recognition.
https://unicycling.org/events/
I think this section should be updated to comply with that :). Or strictly include the text in the event part of the website?
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I agree with you that the Rulebook should use the same wording as the IUF uses on its homepage.
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I am new to that page on the IUF website! It's a great way for the IUF to be open to connecting to the more "local" unicycling world. The text for each of those badge types should probably be part of the Rulebook; possibly the best way to keep them coordinated.
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Also agree
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Also, thanks to the new classifications for events, the scope of the IUF Rulebook is set to IUF Sanctioned and Endorsed events, which affects 1A.1(.1) - the whole paragraph is in need of an update.
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Could someone make a draft of how we can align the current rule 1A.1 with the terms used on the IUF website and share that draft here in the discussion?
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Helped by AI, here is a draft:
1A.1.2 Other Uses for These Rules
National or local unicycling organizations may have their own rules. Though they may
use IUF rules as a basis for their own rules, in national or local competitions, those rules
can no longer be called IUF rules. To get proper results for Unicon quali cation it is
needed to follow the IUF Rulebook as described above.
Any national organization that wishes to deviate from the IUF Rulebook in a competitive event must submit a request to the IUF Board of Directors at least 90 days before the event. If the event is intended to be recognized as an Endorsed event, any deviations from the rulebook — safety gears must meet or exceed IUF requirements— must be clearly documented and approved in advance. Approval of such deviations does not make them part of the IUF Rulebook, but they may be accepted for that specific event.
Hosting an IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned event means that results from the event may be considered comparable with results from other IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned competitions and may count for qualification or rankings, where applicable. To avoid confusion, events using modified rules must not describe those rules as “IUF rules,” even if approved for use by the IUF.
Probably needs the eye of a native :).
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rewritten for minor fixes but I have a question about
"To get proper results for Unicon qualification it is necessary to follow the IUF Rulebook as described above."
Does this imply that in countries where there is a qualification tournament for Unicon they must follow IUF Rules (it is in the current rules so not sure what the intent was)?
1A.1.2 Other Uses for These Rules
National or local unicycling organizations may have their own rules. Though they may use IUF rules as a basis for their own rules, in national or local competitions, those rules can no longer be called IUF rules. To get proper results for Unicon qualification it is necessary to follow the IUF Rulebook as described above.
Any national organization that wishes to deviate from the IUF Rulebook in a competitive event must submit a request to the IUF Board of Directors at least 90 days before the event. If the event is intended to be recognized as an Endorsed event, any deviations from the rulebook — safety gear must meet or exceed IUF requirements— must be clearly documented and approved in advance. Approval of such deviations does not make them part of the IUF Rulebook, but they may be accepted for that specific event.
Hosting an IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned event means that results from the event may be considered comparable with results from other IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned competitions and may count for qualification or rankings, where applicable. To avoid confusion, events using modified rules must not describe those rules as “IUF rules,” even if approved for use by the IUF.
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Many thanks to François and Joshua for preparing the rule.
> Does this imply that in countries where there is a qualification tournament for Unicon they must follow IUF Rules (it is in the current rules so not sure what the intent was)?
Yes, events used to qualify for Unicon must comply with IUF rules or deviations from IUF rules must be approved by the IUF Board of Directors. Maybe we can male this more clear by formulating the last sentence of the first paragraph as follows:
To get proper results for Unicon qualification, it is necessary that they were achieved at an IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned event(*).
Regarding the second paragraph: I think this only applies to IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned events(*), right? Otherwise, no request needs to be sent to the IUF Board of Directors for deviations from the rules?
I have rearranged and adapted the rule a little:
1A.1.2 Other Uses for These Rules
1. National or local unicycling organizations may have their own rules. Though they may use IUF rules as a basis for their own rules, in national or local competitions, those rules can no longer be called IUF rules. Events deviating from IUF rules without approval of the IUF Board of Directors can only be IUF Recognized events.
2. Any national organization that wishes to host a competitive event as an IUF Endorsed event(*) must follow the IUF Rulebook as it is or must submit a request for deviation to the IUF Board of Directors at least 90 days before the event(*). Any deviations from the IUF Rulebook — safety gear must meet or exceed IUF requirements — must be clearly documented and approved in advance. Approval of such deviations does not make them part of the IUF Rulebook, but they may be accepted for that specific event(*). To avoid confusion, events(*) using modified rules must not describe those rules as “IUF rules,” even if approved for use by the IUF.
3. Only results from IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned events(*) may be considered comparable with results from other IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned events(*) and may count for qualification for Unicon, where applicable.
(*) In the other discussion (https://iuf-rulebook-2025.committees.unicycling-software.com/discussions/109), there seems to be a majority in favor of calling this level competition rather than event. We may have to adjust the terms in an editorial process.
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As IUF Endorsed Competition/Event has a specific meaning, I think the term should be formally defined (and thus capitalized).
We could consider also adding a formal definition for the terms Sanctioned and Recognized, but I think paragraph 2 defines Recognized Competition well enough, and Sanctioned seems to have less direct impact on the rules.
I have added the definition of an Endorsed Competition as the first point and moved the other points down. As Jan noted above, I have made an attempt to rephrase using the term "competition" instead of event.
Paragraph 5 is now kind of redundant with Paragraph 1, but I think it is still relevant as it emphasizes the results rather than the rules.
Here with markup:
1A.1.2 Other Uses for These Rules
1. An IUF Endorsed CompetitionEvent is a unicycle competition that adheres to rules formally approved by the IUF to allow for comparison of results and qualification for other IUF events such as Unicon.
2. EventsA competition with rules deviating from IUF rules without approval of the IUF Board of Directors can only be designated as an IUF Recognized eventsCompetition.
3. National or local unicycling organizations may havedefine their own rules. Though they may use IUF rules as a basis for their own rules, in national or local competitions, those rules deviating from IUF rules can no longer be called IUF rules. EventsCompetitions with rules deviating from IUF rules without approval of the IUF Board of Directors can only be designated as IUF Recognized eventscompetitions.
4. Any national organization that wishes to host a competitionve event as an IUF Endorsed Competitionevent must follow the IUF Rulebook as it is or must submit a request for deviation to the IUF Board of Directors at least 90 days before the competitionevent. Any deviations from the IUF Rulebook — safety gear rules must meet or exceed IUF requirements — must be clearly documented and approved in advance. Approval of such deviations does not make them part of the IUF Rulebook, but they may be accepted for that specific competitionevent. To avoid confusion, competitionsevents using modified rules must not describe those rules as “IUF rules,” even if approved for use by the IUF (see section 3 above).
5. Only results from an IUF Endorsed Competition or an IUF Sanctioned Competitionevents(*) may be considered comparable with results from other IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned Competitionsevents and may count for qualification for Unicon, where applicable.
As it's kind of ugly to read with the strikethrough, here the clean copy with my additions in underline:
1A.1.2 Other Uses for These Rules
1. An IUF Endorsed Competition is a unicycle competition that adheres to rules formally approved by the IUF to allow for comparison of results and qualification for other IUF events such as Unicon.
2. A competition with rules deviating from IUF rules without approval of the IUF Board of Directors can only be designated as an IUF Recognized Competition.
3. National or local unicycling organizations may define their own rules. Though they may use IUF rules as a basis for their own rules in national or local competitions, rules deviating from IUF rules can no longer be called IUF rules.
4. Any national organization that wishes to host a competition as an IUF Endorsed Competition must follow the IUF Rulebook as it is or must submit a request for deviation to the IUF Board of Directors at least 90 days before the competition. Any deviations from the IUF Rulebook — safety gear rules must meet or exceed IUF requirements — must be clearly documented and approved in advance. Approval of such deviations does not make them part of the IUF Rulebook, but they may be accepted for that specific competition. To avoid confusion, competitions using modified rules must not describe those rules as “IUF rules,” even if approved for use by the IUF (see section 3 above).
5. Only results from an IUF Endorsed Competition or an IUF Sanctioned Competition may be considered comparable with results from other IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned Competitions and may count for qualification for Unicon, where applicable.
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These are defined here:
https://unicycling.org/events/
But maybe this information would have its place in the rulebook. I am not sure about that.
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Thanks Nathan for reviewing the proposal and the improvements.
> As IUF Endorsed Competition/Event has a specific meaning, I think the term should be formally defined (and thus capitalized).
That's true - the question is whether we'd rather add these terms to the definitions section and give a clear definition there? That would make it easier to find the definition and maybe also use the terms elswhere in the Rulebook?
François is also right that the definitions can be found on the IUF website and we could also include the link - but this would not make the terms directly part of the rules, so I would prefer a definition in the rulebook.
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As the definitions are not overly long, I think it is preferable to have everything in one document rather than a link.
So should one, both or all three terms be in the definitions? I propose adding 2, as IUF Sanctioned Competition is not directly related to the rules.
So I removed paragraph 1 as it has been moved to 1D.1 definitions, and I switched the two remaining paragraphs:
1D.1 De finitions
IUF Endorsed Competition: A unicycle competition that adheres to rules formally approved by the IUF to allow for comparison of results and qualification for other IUF events such as Unicon.
IUF Recognized Competition: A unicycle competition with rules based on IUF rules with deviations that have not been officially approved by the IUF Board of Directors.
1A.1.2 Other Uses for These Rules
1. National or local unicycling organizations may define their own rules. Though they may use IUF rules as a basis for their own rules in national or local competitions, rules deviating from IUF rules can no longer be called IUF rules.
2. A competition with rules deviating from IUF rules without formal approval of the IUF Board of Directors can only be designated as an IUF Recognized Competition.
3. Any national organization that wishes to host a competition as an IUF Endorsed Competition must follow the IUF Rulebook as it is or must submit a request for deviation to the IUF Board of Directors at least 90 days before the competition. Any deviations from the IUF Rulebook — safety gear rules must meet or exceed IUF requirements — must be clearly documented and approved in advance. Approval of such deviations does not make them part of the IUF Rulebook, but they may be accepted for that specific competition. To avoid confusion, competitions using modified rules must not describe those rules as “IUF rules,” even if approved for use by the IUF (see above paragraph).
4. Only results from an IUF Endorsed Competition or an IUF Sanctioned Competition may be considered comparable with results from other IUF Endorsed or IUF Sanctioned Competitions and may count for qualification for Unicon, where applicable.
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I don't think your definitions fit.
We should take the definitions from here: https://unicycling.org/events/
without changing a word (besides event -> competition if that's how it is decided elsewhere). Of course, remove the commitment part, that does not have its place in the rules itself and will be on the website.
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I suggest following update to definitions:
1.D.1 Definitions
IUF Endorsed Event: A competitive national or international event acknowledged by the IUF for its importance to the sport. These events typically include championships or major competitions that award national or international titles.
IUF Recognized Event: A competitive or non-competitive event acknowledged by the IUF for its meaningful contribution to the development, promotion, or visibility of the sport.
IUF Sanctioned Event: An event officially co-organized by the IUF and the host organization. These events are planned in partnership and meet IUF standards for structure, rules, and execution.
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Regarding the chapter 1A.1 Scope of Rules:
1A.1 Scope of Rules
This rulebook is intended to govern all unicycle competition sanctioned by the International
Unicycling Federation, and can be used as a guideline for other competitions.
In 2019 the term "sanctioned" was not clearly precised. Currently it means all events where the IUF has signed Memorandum of Understanding, and so far those are only Unicons. However, currently we have officially recognized "Sanctioned Event" and "Endorsed Event".
In the Rulebook, there are many rules that recall Unicon, and rules that recall events "other than Unicon".
The important is that all Sanctioned Events (including Unicons) should strictly follow the Rulebook, but Endorsed Event have more flexibility. It is normal for Endorsed events to deviate from IUF Rulebook but such deviations should still be approved by the IUF Board of Directors.
This rule seems to be still correct.
1A.1.1 Unicon
OLD RULE: 1A.1.1 Unicon
All IUF Unicons (International Unicycling Conventions) must abide exclusively by these
rules. Further rules may be added to cover specific situations, but they may not override
the IUF rules without prior approval by the IUF Board of Directors. All additional rules
must be published well in advance of international competition, and published together
with registration forms.
Not all international unicycling conventions are Unicons, neither are acknowledged by the IUF.
PROPOSAL: 1A.1.1 IUF Sanctioned Events
All IUF Sanctioned Events (such as Unicon) must abide exclusively by these
rules. Further rules may be added to cover specific situations, but they may not override
the IUF rules without prior approval by the IUF Board of Directors. All additional rules
must be published well in advance of international competition, and published together
with registration forms.
For the Rule 1A.1.2,
The Version from Jan Vocke with language edits from Nathan looks best to me. I would only delete what is striketroughted, as this is irrelevant for the rulebook.
Removed other points from Nathan, as those are definitions.
1A.1.2 Other Uses for These Rules
1. National or local unicycling organizations may define their own rules. Though they may use IUF rules as a basis for their own rules, in national or local competitions. Rules deviating from IUF rules can no longer be called IUF rules. Events deviating from IUF rules without approval of the IUF Board of Directors can only be IUF Recognized events.
2. Any national organization that wishes to host a competitive event as an IUF Endorsed event(*) must follow the IUF Rulebook as it is or must submit a request for deviation to the IUF Board of Directors at least 90 days before the event(*). Any deviations from the IUF Rulebook — safety gear must meet or exceed IUF requirements — must be clearly documented and approved in advance. Approval of such deviations does not make them part of the IUF Rulebook, but they may be accepted for that specific event(*). To avoid confusion, events(*) using modified rules must not describe those rules as “IUF rules,” even if approved for use by the IUF.
3. Only results from an IUF Endorsed or an IUF Sanctioned events(*) may be considered comparable with results from other IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned events(*) and may count for qualification for Unicon, where applicable.
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I like Maksym's proposal for 1A.1.
I also agree with François and Maksym that keeping the original wording is better.
However, with respect to the rulebook, I think the implications concerning rule deviations and approval should be clearly stated in the definitions as the tangible difference between Endorsed and Recognized is that Endorsed use rules officially approved by the IUF, so I would combine the definitions.
But I'm not sure if they should be listed as Events or Competitions... Although I would not be opposed to leaving as "events", here an attempt as Competitions:
1.D.1 Definitions
IUF Endorsed Competition: A competitive national or international event acknowledged by the IUF for its importance to the sport. These events typically include championships or major competitions that award national or international titles. An IUF Endorsed Competition must adhere to rules formally approved by the IUF to allow for comparison of results and qualification for other IUF Sanctioned Competitions such as Unicon.
IUF Recognized Competition: A competitive or non-competitive event acknowledged by the IUF for its meaningful contribution to the development, promotion, or visibility of the sport. An IUF Recognized Competition that uses rules based on IUF rules with deviations that have not been officially approved by the IUF Board of Directors is not valid for use for qualification for IUF Sanctioned Competitions such as Unicon.
IUF Sanctioned Competition: A competition officially co-organized by the IUF and the host organization. These competitions are planned in partnership and meet IUF standards for structure, rules, and execution.
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Nathan, we still didn't agree that "Events" can be replaced with "Competition"- and I am in strong opposition of doing that.
Also, you are making up definitions that does not match definitions on the IUF website.
Let me explain the differences:
IUF Endorsed Competition: A competitive national or international event acknowledged by the IUF for its importance to the sport. These events typically include championships or major competitions that award national or international titles. An IUF Endorsed Competition must adhere to rules formally approved by the IUF to allow for comparison of results and qualification for other IUF Sanctioned Competitions such as Unicon.
This institution is made to allow IUF of recognition of the event with specific importance. Imagine that Mr Smith organizes the European Championships in Unicycle Hockey in London, and at the same time Mr Shmidt organizes the same in Berlin. Perhaps, the IUF would endorse only one of such event during year. Such event should strive to standards set by the IUF Rulebook. However, it may not always be possible. If the standards are still kept on the high level, IUF may endorse the event. The ability for comparison of the results and qualification is important thing but is secondary, and not decisive in my opinion.
IUF Recognized Event: A competitive or non-competitive event acknowledged by the IUF for its meaningful contribution to the development, promotion, or visibility of the sport.
For example ELSBET - a non competitive event that can be acknowledged by the IUF for its contribution to promotion and visibility of the sport.
OR Salzkammergut Trophy - a competitive event that can be acknowledged for its contribution to promotion and visibility... even though the IUF rulebook is not respected.
That is why it is important to keep the word "event". Also, there are no rules for IUF Recognized events. The IUF Rulebook does not need to be followed.
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To organize the whole thing a bit, I would start at the beginning:
1A.1.1
I think the changes proposed by Maksym are good. It takes into account the levels of competitions defined by the IUF and thus makes the rule more general than before, which is positive.
1A.1.2
I would stick with the term "event" for the proposal in this discussion, with the note that this term may be changed by another proposal. In this way, we can separate the new version of this rule and the adaptation of the terms.
As for deleting the last sentence of paragraph 1, I am open to leaving it out if there is a definition for "IUF Recognized Event".
Definitions
We should primarily define in the Rulebook what is also decisive for the Rulebook. Ich denke, wenn wir uns hier auf ein Wordung einigen, was etwas besser als Definition passt, als das aktuelle Wording auf der IUF Webseite, ist es kein Problem das Wording auf der IUF Webseite an das Rulebook anzupassen.
IUF Sanctioned Event
I like Maksym's definition - however, it leaves out the aspect "Sanctioned events will strictly follow the IUF rulebook." from the homepage, which I actually think is an important part of the definition. So I would leave this sentence in the definition.
IUF Endorsed Event
I think Nathan's point about rule deviations and their approval is extremely important and I would agree with Nathan that it should be clearly stated in the definitions. It is also a crucial point, as defined on the IUF website, that “Endorsed Events” use rules officially approved by the IUF.
And in the end, what should be the reason for approving rules if not to ensure a certain standard and comparability of results? In my opinion, it would be a disaster to allow competitions as “endorsed events” where the results are not comparable with other “endorsed or sanctioned events”. We would not be doing our sport any favors.
IUF Recognized Event
I would agree to leave out the qualification aspect here, as it is described in 1A.1.2 anyway.
PROPOSAL:
1A.1 Scope of Rules
1. This rulebook is intended to govern all unicycle competitions sanctioned by the International Unicycling Federation, and can be used as a guideline for other competitions.
1A.1.1 IUF Sanctioned Events(*)
1. All IUF Sanctioned Events(*) (such as Unicon) must abide exclusively by these rules.
2. Further rules may be added to cover specific situations, but they may not override the IUF rules without prior approval by the IUF Board of Directors. All additional rules must be published well in advance of international competition, and published together with registration forms.
1A.1.2 Other Uses for These Rules
1. National or local unicycling organizations may define their own rules. Though they may use IUF rules as a basis for their own rules, in national or local competitions. Rules deviating from IUF rules can no longer be called IUF rules.
2. Any national organization that wishes to host a competitive event as an IUF Endorsed event(*) must follow the IUF Rulebook as it is or must submit a request for deviation to the IUF Board of Directors at least 90 days before the event(*). Any deviations from the IUF Rulebook — safety gear must meet or exceed IUF requirements — must be clearly documented and approved in advance. Approval of such deviations does not make them part of the IUF Rulebook, but they may be accepted for that specific event(*). To avoid confusion, events(*) using modified rules must not describe those rules as “IUF rules,” even if approved for use by the IUF.
3. Only results from an IUF Endorsed or an IUF Sanctioned event(*) may be considered comparable with results from other IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned events(*) and may count for qualification for Unicon, where applicable.
1.D.1 Definitions
IUF Sanctioned Event(*): An event(*) officially co-organized by the IUF and the host organization. These events(*) are planned in partnership and meet IUF standards for structure, rules, and execution. Sanctioned events(*) will strictly follow the IUF rulebook.
IUF Endorsed Event(*): A competitive national or international event(*) acknowledged by the IUF for its importance to the sport. These events typically include championships or major competitions that award national or international titles. An IUF Endorsed Event(*) will follow the IUF Rulebook and every rule deviation must be formally approved by the IUF.
IUF Recognized Event(*): A competitive or non-competitive event(*) acknowledged by the IUF for its meaningful contribution to the development, promotion, or visibility of the sport.
Comment
>And in the end, what should be the reason for approving rules if not to ensure a certain standard and comparability of results? In my opinion, it would be a disaster to allow competitions as “endorsed events” where the results are not comparable with other “endorsed or sanctioned events”. We would not be doing our sport any favors.
I would not be so focused on comparability as most of unicycle disciplines are not comparable (Muni, freestyle, urban events, team sports, Road races)
When endorsing the event the comparability of the results is NOT the main goal. Although we would like to have all results to be comparable, it is often not possible. A good example are already Unicons, which are on even higher organizational level. As for example, the road races with failed distance measurements.
We cannot exactly compare the results, and World Records cannot be claimed, however the ranking of the riders is still deemed correct and the champion titles are awarded.
When endorsing the event, the more focus is made to the standards. The higher standards and higher level of compliance with IUF rulebook we can expect from countries like Germany or France which have higher organizational level and experience. The lower standards we would expect from regions were the unicycling is still developing, for example Latin America (LAUCC). The good thing on this particular example is that the standards are significantly improving.
LAUCC was endorsed event. Competitions were supposed to be run according to the rules, but due to inexperience of competition directors, there were deviations that does not allow for the results comparability. Due to failure, the high jumps are comparable, but the long jump on platform are not comparable.
It would be amazing to have all competitions run perfectly according the regulations, but it is very difficult. Today, nobody can give guarantee that the next Unicon will be following the rulebook in 100%, even though it must do.
The results may only be comparable, if there is a supervision and approval after the event, not before.
Anyway, the wording of the proposal is correct. It states: "Only results from an IUF Endorsed or an IUF Sanctioned event(*) may be considered comparable with results from other IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned events(*) and may count for qualification for Unicon, where applicable."
And that allows to review the results after competition and approve them for comparability.
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1A.1.2 Other Uses for These Rules
1. National or local unicycling organizations may define their own rules. Though they may use IUF rules as a basis for their own rules, in national or local competitions. Rules deviating from IUF rules can no longer be called IUF rules.
2. Any national organization that wishes to host a competitive event as an IUF Endorsed event(*) must...
I propose change to Regional organizations
(Last endorsed events are contiental championships: LAUCC, Winter EUC, Summer EUC)
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I agree with most of what both Jan and Maksym have said. So incorporating Maksym's suggestion for regional (and minor grammar and punctuation editing):
PROPOSAL:
1A.1 Scope of Rules
1. This rulebook is intended to govern all unicycle competitions sanctioned by the International Unicycling Federation and can be used as a guideline for other competitions.
1A.1.1 IUF Sanctioned Events(*)
1. All IUF Sanctioned Events(*) such as Unicon must abide exclusively by these rules.
2. Further rules may be added to cover specific situations, but they may not override the IUF rules without prior approval by the IUF Board of Directors. All additional rules must be published well in advance of international competition and published together with registration forms.
1A.1.2 Other Uses for These Rules
1. Regional or national organizations may define their own rules. Though they may use IUF rules as a basis for their own rules in national, regional or local competitions, rules deviating from IUF rules can no longer be called IUF rules.
2. Any regional or national organization that wishes to host a competitive event as an IUF Endorsed event(*) must follow the IUF Rulebook as it is or must submit a request for deviation to the IUF Board of Directors at least 90 days before the event(*). Any deviations from the IUF Rulebook — safety gear must meet or exceed IUF requirements — must be clearly documented and approved in advance. Approval of such deviations does not make them part of the IUF Rulebook, but they may be accepted for that specific event(*). To avoid confusion, events(*) using modified rules must not describe those rules as “IUF rules,” even if approved for use by the IUF.
3. Only results from an IUF Endorsed or an IUF Sanctioned event(*) may be considered comparable with results from other IUF Endorsed or Sanctioned events(*) and may count for qualification for Unicon, where applicable.
1.D.1 Definitions
IUF Sanctioned Event(*): An event(*) officially co-organized by the IUF and the host organization. These events(*) are planned in partnership and meet IUF standards for structure, rules, and execution. Sanctioned events(*) will strictly follow the IUF rulebook.
IUF Endorsed Event(*): A competitive regional, national or international event(*) acknowledged by the IUF for its importance to the sport. These events typically include championships or major competitions that award national or international titles. An IUF Endorsed Event(*) will follow the IUF Rulebook and every rule deviation must be formally approved by the IUF.
IUF Recognized Event(*): A competitive or non-competitive event(*) acknowledged by the IUF for its meaningful contribution to the development, promotion, or visibility of the sport.
Comment
It looks good to me.
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> I would not be so focused on comparability as most of unicycle disciplines are not comparable (Muni, freestyle, urban events, team sports, Road races)
In my opinion, there are rules precisely to ensure that results achieved under the same rules can be compared. Of course, that doesn't mean that a time from a cross-country race at one competition is comparable with a time from another cross-country race - the rules don't even provide for that. But the results are comparable in terms of the conditions under which the competition took place. And thats the important fact.
> As for example, the road races with failed distance measurements.
We cannot exactly compare the results, and World Records cannot be claimed, however the ranking of the riders is still deemed correct and the champion titles are awarded.
And this is precisely the example in which the races did not take place under comparable conditions, because measuring the distance is one of the most essential requirements for a fixed-distance road race. If this cannot be ensured, then an organizer should never offer the competition as an IUF-compliant fixed-distance road race - and certainly not at a sanctioned or endorsed competition. After all, the rulebook offers sufficient alternatives to a fixed distance road race.
But this is a discussion that takes us away from the actual topic and no longer has anything to do with the specific proposal. So we should get back to it.
National or local unicycling organizations vs. Regional or national organizations
I feel “national or local” is more general, as “local” to me covers all levels below the national level, whereas “regional” again describes a specific level in organized sport. But in the end I would also agree to use “regional”.
However, I would always go from the highest to the lowest level in all lists, i.e. “international”, “national”, “regional”/“local”.
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Jan, I agree with almost everything you wrote concerning the importance of comparability.
As to the term "regional" I think you seem to be assuming that it is always lower than national, e.g. Southern Germany or Bavarian.
But regional can also be larger than national, such as North America (NAUCC) or Europe (EUC, EM). Adding regional makes it more flexible.
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> But regional can also be larger than national, such as North America (NAUCC) or Europe (EUC, EM). Adding regional makes it more flexible.
I see the point, probably a non-native speaker issue again: I would call these championships continental championships and never regional championships.
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The word regional adds flexibility. The region can be in district level within a country, or broader international.
In the sentence: "Regional and National organizations" - the " and national" is nor really necessary, but I think it is OK, for the end user to have it there.
Also, not all international events are World or continental. LAUCC is 2 continental excluding US and Canada , and I may be wrong but I think that NAUCC does not include latin countries of North America. There is also APUC - that stands for Asia Pacific - which includes part of the Asia + Australia and Oceania.
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I noticed the draft(s) so far are incomplete and need some addition.
The rules must include the full sentence/description for the events as they are listed on the website right now. Especially including the host commitments. One must be able to process the rulebook and have the full understanding, WITHOUT also conducting the website - both places must give the same information.
Given the host commitment is the crucial part, this can't be definitions and must be listed under 1A.1 - and is clearly straight forward for sanctioned and endorsed events (each to be its own section 1A.1.1 and 1A.1.2).
I was finding myself in referencing non-sanctioned/endorsed events for writing rules, which I figured a bit tricky and would love to refer to them by a term. Explaining those and there will be one sentence at the, that those can be IUF recognized events (must also include non-competitive events for sure).
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> The region can be in district level within a country, or broader international.
As already mentioned, this is certainly due to the language. In German, “regional” would only be used for something that covers a smaller area than an entire country. Otherwise one would say "international" or "continental". But if in English the use of “regional” is also common for this international level, then I'm fine with it.
> The rules must include the full sentence/description for the events as they are listed on the website right now. Especially including the host commitments. One must be able to process the rulebook and have the full understanding, WITHOUT also conducting the website - both places must give the same information.
So far, the definition has not aimed to describe how an organizer gets an event endorsed. Therefore, I do not necessarily see the need to include in the Rulebook what the organizer and the IUF commit to. This is more of an agreement between the host and the IUF. But we can also make the whole topic more detailed.
But I think we have to be very careful about referring to endorsed events in the rulebook when we describe what should apply to certain competitions - because the core of endorsed events is that deviations from the rulebook are permitted 8if they get approved by the IUF). So it makes no sense to say in the Rulebook that certain things must be fulfilled for endorsed events, because if deviations are permitted, deviations from these requirements would also be permitted.
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I have two remarks about the proposal.
In A1.1.1, I find "of international competition" strange and possibly incorrect (wrt English):
2. Further rules may be added to cover specific situations, but they may not override the IUF rules without prior approval by the IUF Board of Directors. All additional rules must be published well in advance of international competition and published together with registration forms.
I propose to modify it like this:
2. Further rules may be added to cover specific situations, but they may not override the IUF rules without prior approval by the IUF Board of Directors. All additional rules must be published well in advance of the Sanctioned Event(*) and published together with registration forms.
In the last proposed definition, replacing "Event" by "Competition" would not be satisfactory. I propose to use "Gathering" instead. This would give:
IUF Recognized Gathering: A competitive or non-competitive gathering acknowledged by the IUF for its meaningful contribution to the development, promotion, or visibility of the sport.
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I agree on replacing "international competition" with "the Sanctioned Event".
I would keep "Event". It sounds more official and has much broader meaning.
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> In A1.1.1, I find "of international competition" strange and possibly incorrect (wrt English):
You're right, the wording does indeed sound strange. You could also just write event(*), since the section only concerns IUF Sanctioned Events(*) anyway:
2. Further rules may be added to cover specific situations, but they may not override the IUF rules without prior approval by the IUF Board of Directors. All additional rules must be published well in advance of the event(*) and published together with registration forms.
> In the last proposed definition, replacing "Event" by "Competition" would not be satisfactory. I propose to use "Gathering" instead. This would give:
I can understand that “Competition” is not seen as equivalent at this point. Personally, I would have no problem with replacing it, since we are talking about a Competition Rulebook here and an event without any competition will never be the scope of our rules, but I could also imagine “Gathering” or “Competition or Convention” as a compromise if the convention aspect is to be explicitly emphasized.
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> You could also just write event(*)
Yes, indeed.
> I would keep "Event". It sounds more official and has much broader meaning.
I agree that "Event" would be better in general, but it conflicts with the specialized meaning of "Event" in Proposal 103, and both definitions will be close to each other in 1D.1 (I'm afraid it will cause confusion for the readers).
> I can understand that “Competition” is not seen as equivalent at this point. Personally, I would have no problem with replacing it, since we are talking about a Competition Rulebook here and an event without any competition will never be the scope of our rules, but I could also imagine “Gathering” or “Competition or Convention” as a compromise if the convention aspect is to be explicitly emphasized.
My basic comment was that replacing "event" by "competition" in "IUF Recognized Event(*): A competitive or non-competitive event(*)" leads to "IUF Recognized Competition: A competitive or non-competitive competition" which is ugly and not very meaningful (can we still use the term "competition" for something which is fully non-competitive?).
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> My basic comment was that replacing "event" by "competition" in "IUF Recognized Event(*): A competitive or non-competitive event(*)" leads to "IUF Recognized Competition: A competitive or non-competitive competition" which is ugly and not very meaningful (can we still use the term "competition" for something which is fully non-competitive?).
I got your point. I think inside the definition "gathering" woks perfectly fine - on the other side for the rulebook (since it is written for competitions) I would be fine with using only competition:
IUF Recognized Competition: A Competition acknowledged by the IUF for its meaningful contribution to the development, promotion, or visibility of the sport.
If we would like to have the non-competitive aspect in the rule we could write:
IUF Recognized Competition or Convention: A Competition or Convention acknowledged by the IUF for its meaningful contribution to the development, promotion, or visibility of the sport.
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Both solutions suit me (I have a slight preference for the second one). What about you Maksym?
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Although I kind of like Competition as it makes the first case clear in respect to the rules applying to a competition (IUF Sanctioned Event(*): An event(*) officially co-organized by the IUF and the host organization.), it is a little awkward in the 3rd case for "competitive or non-competitive."
Event definitely sounds fine and covers all cases well (an IUF Recognized Event could also not even be a competition but have a purely social or entertainment focus). The only "complication" is the double usage in the more specific Event/Contest case, but I think it is acceptable without being contradictory here (we don't define Event in itself but specific IUF related events).
Note: "Gathering" sounds quite informal, as in a few people just informally hanging out with almost no importance, so I don't think it is appropriate for IUF* events.
So I would be for Event, although Competition would also be fine if the awkwardness can be resolved. But I am against Gathering.
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> Event definitely sounds fine and covers all cases well (an IUF Recognized Event could also not even be a competition but have a purely social or entertainment focus). The only "complication" is the double usage in the more specific Event/Contest case, but I think it is acceptable without being contradictory here (we don't define Event in itself but specific IUF related events).
But the case that it is not a competition would also be covered by Convention - a convention can also have a purely social or entertainment focus, can't it?
In addition, IUF Sanctioned and Endorsed “events” are precisely about compliance with the rules or the documentation of deviations from the rules - so only competitions can fall into these two categories and nothing with a purely social or entertainment character - because no IUF rules would be applied anyway.
Therefore, one could also define IUF Sanctioned / Endorsed / Recognized Competitions in the Rulebook without any problems - which have a competitive character and also have IUF Recognized Conventions on the website, where there is no competitive character?
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We haven't really made any progress on the question of whether we should focus on competitions in the rulebook or include non-competitive conventions here. However, I would like to amend the proposal so that we can vote on it.
Option 1: We only define what actually has a competitive character in the rulebook, as it is a set of competition rules:
IUF Recognized Competition*: A Competition* acknowledged by the IUF for its meaningful contribution to the development, promotion, or visibility of the sport.
Option 2: We also keep the non-competitive aspect in the rule:
IUF Recognized Competition* or Convention: A Competition* or Convention acknowledged by the IUF for its meaningful contribution to the development, promotion, or visibility of the sport.
*I would stay with "event" for the proposal. The change might come due to the other proposal.
With option 1, the IUF can still define IUF Recognized Conventions on its homepage—but these are then outside the scope of the competition rulebook, because they have a non-competitive character.
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Both options are fine for me. I have a slight preference for the second one.