14B.10 Protests - Unclear for more than 8 years (Closed for comments)


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This protest section came in by the reorganisation of the rulebook. We had a long discussion on this section how to handle protest (see https://iuf-rulebook-2016.committees.unicycling-software.com/discussions/42). 

Some last comments ended with ""Protest" is a very tricky rule. I have no solution so far." or "I do not have a current suggestion for this."

In 2018 we restarted this discussion "Maybe now 2 years and one more UNICON later someone has good ideas how we can solve this problem." (see https://iuf-rulebook-2018.committees.unicycling-software.com/discussions/31).

This year with some new members in this sub committee, perhaps after 8 years with no solution, we are more successful.

14B.10 Protests
Protests must be filed on an official form (what kind of form? Experions from the last UNICONS?) within two hours of the posting of event results.
Every effort will be made for all protests to be handled within 30 minutes from the time they are received (Who will receive? - who has to decide?) The sam old unanswered questions.

Nowadays does someone have good ideas how we can solve this old problem?

 

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Official form - since there are no forms we/unicon organisers have to create forms OR we change that to written form. 

Protest receiver and handling - I always thought this would be a task for the hockey director of a unicon/tournament. We should append it then.

Ciao Ole 

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If nobody has an idea what protests means and how it has to maid, this section is not needed.

I propose to cancell all words "Protests must be filed on an official form within two hours of the posting of event results.
Every effort will be made for all protests to be handled within 30 minutes from the time
they are received."  This would end questioning what "protest" stands for.

 

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I think protests are rare in hockey. At Unicon in Spain (2016), there was, as far as I know, one protest because a player temporarily helped out another team (due to an injury of another player), and this was even agreed upon with the opposing team. However, this player also competed for another team. As far as I'm aware, the protest was unsuccessful because the rules did not explicitly state that a player may only play for one team.

This naturally leads to another discussion about whether a player is allowed to participate in both the A and B tournaments, since these are actually two separate competitions—but that's an entirely different topic.

Aside from this case, I'm not aware of any other protests.

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Protest are rare in hockey, why? Probably most problems we are able to solve with the referees and opposing teams. On the other hand the rule says that a protest has to maid written within 2 hours. But no form available, nobody resposibel to receive the protest - time is gone for protest.

I have no idea why members of rulebook 2018 (including myselve) missed this point. 

Should we allow a player to play on UNICON in two different teams even if the player plays in teams playing on different levels-tournaments? If a voting member likes to discuss this matter please open a discussion/proposal. (As a non-voting-member I have only "preveleged action: Close this discussion". 

Please be aware: "30  March: last day to submit a proposal" so far.


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