Too early restart after goal (Closed for comments)
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What happens, when the team scoring a goal and afterwards having a restart against them, start the game too early by crossing the center-line? Will in such a situation the restart be played again or will a free shot be given (e.g. at the center point)? This happened more often in the Swiss league lately and I think it would be good to clarify.
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Do you mean the team who scores the goal crosses the centre line before the team who has the ball crosses?
Or do you mean the team who was scored against crosses the centre line before the referee blows the whistle to restart play and allow them to cross?
In the first case if I had to make a decision and the whistle had been blown (indicating that play had started) I would penalise the offending team (I was penalised in our finals last year for the same thing)
In the second case, if the team who was scored against crossed before the whistle was blown I tend to not penalise, as without the whistle being blown I don't consider play having started. The only thing that would change my mind on that would be if I thought they were intentionally crossing early to delay the game.
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Sorry for not being specific enough. I meant the first situation. I think the second situation is clearly regulated by the current rules (as you wrote).
How would you penalize the offending team? I think the referee should first play the advantage. And then give a free shot or repeat the restart after a goal?
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Sorry, may be I have a black out, I don't know what you mean. I need a clarification.
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Okay, so Team A scores a goal against Team B. Play will continue with a restart where Team B is in possession of the ball according to 14B.5.6. The referee blows the whistle but before Team B open play, Team A crosses the center line.
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What is the bigger advantage for team B?
A) Get a free shot at the center spot. Would a free shot be a real penalty? May team B position their players in the opponents half to receive the free shot?
B) Get another chance to restart the game (freely move the ball anywhere in their half and decide where and how to cross the middle line)
Ciao Ole
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I think it's a bigger advantage if the team can start the game again because you can attack with more speed. With a free-shot, the defending team can better position themselves to defend. So I think variation B is better.
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Perhaps then we should play advantage to the team who had the other team cross over before the start, give a short advantage opportunity and then if no advantage is given then have a restart for the team who was fouled?
If we think having a shot from the centre is no improvement. this would allow them two starts to try and put together a good play?
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I just thought of a similar situation during a free shot (or face-off). What happens in such a situation when a defending player is too close to the execution point (within the 2m)? Here again as a referee, I would first play the advantage. But what if the player touches the ball?
Having consistent rules would be good. So the same punishment is given for being too close to the execution point or crossing the center line. If this is repeating the previous rule, that would be fine with me. However, I fear that could be misused to play for time.
In floorball, there is the quite strict rule that a player gets a 2min when he violates the distance requirements during a free shot. With the current rules, I think this would be too strict. If we make all rules stricter, a similar rule like this could be discussed.
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New Rule for delay of game
14B.8.1 General Considerations
All players must take care not to endanger others. Exaggerated roughness can lead to
injuries and must therefore be avoided. The game is non-contact: the opponents and
their unicycles may not be touched. The players must take care not to hit an opponent To keep the game going, rule violations
with their stick, especially after a shot. Only in the vicinity of the ball (defined as the
ball within the radius of the outstretched arm length plus stick) may a player touch
an opponent's stick with their stick to block them. However, this contact may not be
hard. It is illegal to turn the blade of the stick upside down in order to hook into an
opponent's stick. Raising the opponent's stick is allowed in principle, if not done using
exaggerated roughness. If the opponent's stick is raised to a high stick, it is always
considered exaggerated roughness. Intentional delay of the game is not permitted and
may result in a penalty and the stoppage of time.
that do not influence the course of the game should not be penalized.
14B.8 Fouls
14B.8.12 Intentional Delay Of Game
A delay of game foul shall be called when a team intentionally delays the restart of play. Examples include deliberately hitting the ball out of bounds, taking excessive time to execute a free shot, slowly returning to their own half after scoring a goal, or deliberately delaying the restart after conceding a goal.
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Now the above heading is missleading ("Too early restart after goal") when discuss "Intentional Delay Of Game"
I am very happy with shrinking the "General Considerations" from spezific rules and open new headings for spezific fouls. (Proposal 60 needs an other review!)
At the end a reorganisation of the foul section is needed.
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Thanks Herbie. Needed one more sentence about crossing early.
14B.8 Fouls
14B.8.12 Intentional Delay Of Game
A delay of game foul shall be called when a team intentionally delays the restart of play. Examples include deliberately hitting the ball out of bounds, taking excessive time to execute a free shot, deliberately delaying the restart after conceding a goal, slowly returning to their own half after scoring a goal, or entering the opponent’s half before the ball or the player in possession has crossed the center line.
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I like your suggestion Steven about the general delay of game, but would not include the last point. However, I agree that this should be penalized (also potentially with a 2min).
For me, entering too early is similar to violating the distance rule during the execution of a free shot. The referee could play the advantage and play would be only little affected (if at all). Thus I suggest to include that in the list of causes for a 2min:
The following offenses lead to a 2min penalty:
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- when a player actively obstructs the restart of the game by not adhering to the 2m distance (…) or crossing the centre line early during a restart after goal
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Ok if early restart is covered in stricter rules then this is sorted. I will continue in the "Time Wasting" discussion with the delay of game.
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