Creation of a 3vs 3 tournament
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I believe that after a few years of having it as a workshop tournament, it is now the time to have the 3 vs 3 unicycle basketball as a standalone competition.
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Although I understand your desire for it, and the rulebook could describe specific 3 vs. 3 rules, as a Unicon organizer, I would not pick it up as a new competition. The number of competition overall is already to high.
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I think we should keep in mind that the IUF rules are not just Unicon rules, but rules for all types of unicycle competitions. If there are 3 vs 3 competitions, then I think it is worth considering whether we want to recognize this form of baketball as an official IUF discipline and include it in the rulebook (which does not automatically mean that it will be offered at Unicons).
In Track, for example, there have been 200 m races at many competitions for many years without this being an official IUF discipline. In the last Rulebook Committee, the discipline was added to the official IUF disciplines without making it mandatory for Unicon.
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Prescisely my point when I said "the rulebook could describe specific 3 vs. 3 rules".
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I agree with Jan, having rules for a 3v3 tournament is also nice in areas with fewer players. Do we need any modifications from https://fiba3x3.com/docs/fiba-3x3-basketball-rules-full-version.pdf that are not already specified?
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as a Unicon organizer, I would not pick it up as a new competition. The number of competition overall is already to high.
I respectfully disagree with that comment. On the contrary, I believe there is actually a lack of diversity in certain categories at Unicon. The 3 vs 3 format is an emerging new discipline that has been appearing in more and more majors sports competitions, and it would make perfect sense to include it as an official competition of the Unicon.
Just as Freestyle has multiple subcategories, and Track and other styles of competition offer a variety of races and categories, I don't see any reason why the Unicon's Basketball section couldn't also consist of two distinct formats (5 vs 5 and 3 vs 3).
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> Just as Freestyle has multiple subcategories, and Track and other styles of competition offer a variety of races and categories, I don't see any reason why the Unicon's Basketball section couldn't also consist of two distinct formats (5 vs 5 and 3 vs 3).
I think the main problem with adding more disciplines/categories to a Unicon is time. I don't think that a Unicon organizer will be able to fit a basketball tournament for 5 vs 5 and one for 3 vs 3 into the schedule. Even in other sections, not all the disciplines described in the rulebook are offered (e.g. Track, Road). I don't think we can therefore assume that 5 vs 5 and 3 vs 3 basketball will be offered at a Unicon, even if we add 3 vs 3 to the rulebook.
As I wrote above, in other sections disciplines were “tested” at competitions for quite a while and only added to the rulebook after some time when it was found that the athletes are really interested in these disciplines and there are organizers who offer these disciplines (even outside of a Unicon). For me, this raises the question of whether it is really necessary to include 3 vs. 3 basketball as an official IUF discipline in the rulebook at this point in time, or whether we should observe in the coming years whether and how this discipline is offered and then make a decision based on this experience in the next rulebook update.
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There were 3v3 tournaments as workshops in at least the last two Unicons I think.
I am definitely fine with adding 3v3 rules in the rulebook. But not with making it a Unicon mandatory event. Oeganizers will then act depending on gym times, etc.
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Even if 3 vs 3 may not be a mandatory event because indeed it adds more pressure on the gym time, it should nevertheless be possible to have it as a competition/event and not just as a workshop. If I remember well, at Unicon 20, we were ready to have it as a competition/event but it was refused. Therefore, I think the 3vs 3 rules should be incorporated in the IUF Rulebook (it has been enough tested in my opinion). However, I don't see what needs to be written except that we use the same modifications of the FIBA rules as for 5 vs 5.
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What about the addition of 3pt competitions and free throw competitions as actual events? Different discussion or appropriate here? I believe there were actual medals for these in Montreal (Unicon 17?). How about a dunk contest!?
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I think we should really only include disciplines in the Rulebook that are regularly offered at competitions and that we see that there is interest from athletes and competition organizers to offer as official IUF disciplines. Any organizer is free to offer events in disciplines that are not listed in the IUF Rulebook as official IUF disciplines.
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I'd recommend adding some comments on these events even if they are not required in order to spread awareness. In particular I could see 3x3 tournaments being used at NAUCC or other competitions with fewer riders. I would simply modify section 15.A to include this and link to the fiba 3x3 rules as well.